A brief warning with respect to the data in figure 1: I know that a couple of you are too lazy to actually read the article and do headline + figure hopping. If you intend to to that, please keep in mind that the data in figure 1 is from another recent study, I used to illustrate the negative effects of "real" alternate day fasting.
Not all alternate day fasting is created equal
For the course of this 12-week, randomized, controlled, parallel-arm feeding trial the participants, 61 women and only 3 men aged 25 to 65 years, overweight / obese (BMI 30-39.9kg/m²) and weight stable for at least 3 months were randomized to one of the four study arms (unfortunately the data does not allow for any conclusions, whether the men and women reacted differently to the intervention or "real" alternate day fasting the data from the rodent study I discuss in the interlude surrounding figure 1 shows that this is the case, though):
- control group (C): sedentary, no diet
- exercise group (E): 25, 30, 35, 40min at intensities of 60, 65, 70, 56% of the calculated HRmax (intensity and duration were increased in week 4, 7 and 10)
- alternate day fasting group (ADF): after 4-week controlled feeding period the study concluded with an 8-week self-selected feeding period.
During the counseling sessions the participants were also instructed to make (I quote) "healthy foodchoices on the ad libitum feed days by choosing low fat meat and dairy options and
"During the controlled feeding period (week 1-4) participants consumed 25% of their baseline energy needs on the "fast day” (24 h) and consumed food ad libitum on each "feed day” (24 h). [...] The diet consisted of a 3-day rotating menu plan, and all fast day meals were prepared in the metabolic kitchen of the Human Nutrition Research Unit (HNRU). Fast day meals were consumed between 12.00 pm and 2.00 pm to ensure that each subject was undergoing the same duration of fasting.[...] During the self-selected feeding period (week 8-12) subjects continued with the ADF regimen but no the fast day food was provided to them. Instead, each subject met with a dietician at the beginning of each week to learn how to maintain the ADF regimen on his or her own at home." (Bhuatin. 2013)As long as study subjects just have to eat what scientists serve them, every diet works. When they are however told to eat a high protein diet, for example, even the reported nutrient intake diverges massively from what the scientists had in mind, when they devised the protocol - you don't believe me? Well, then read for yourself, "What Really Happens, When Science Meets the Real World"
increasing fruit and vegetable intake." (Bhutani. 2013)
- combination group (ADF + E): combination of alternate day fasting and exercise protocol
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| Table 1: Nutrient composition of the fast day diet provided to the combination and ADF groups (Bhutani. 2013) |
Let's briefly take a look why "real" alternate day fasting may not be a good idea
As you can see the effect of the alternate day fasting regimen in the Kumar study, in the course of which the rodents simply did not receive any food for a whole day, had profound negative effects on the hypothalamo-gypophysial-gonadal axis - especially in the female rodents.
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| Figure 1: Effects of every-other day fasting vs.ad libitum feeding on ovarian weight, estradiol, lutenizing hormone, leptin, and testosterone in female and male rodents (Kumar. 2013) |
Now why didn't these adverse events occur in the study at hand?
Actually I am only assuming that there were not similar negative effects in the study at hand. After all, we don't have the respective hormonal and even in the rodents it took it's time (2 cycles) until the females were totally infertile. Changes like these would thus probably have gone unrecognized. I do however suspect that the major factors contributing to the overall hormonal decline in the rodent study were the extendended time-span without food and the overall caloric deficit, which is usually ~30-40% of the habitual intake in rodents on alternate day fasting regimen, as they do not compensate for the fasting day on the subsequent day.
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| Figure 2: Changes in body composition in the combined, ADF, exercise and control groups (Bhutani. 2013) |
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| Figure 3: Changes in lipid profile (left) and glucose metabolism in the combined, ADF, exercise and control groups (Bhutani. 2013) |
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| Image 2: Ramadan fasting can serve as a relatively well studied "model" of intermittent fasting. With the additional restriction of water intake and the common practice of rising early to have breakfast there are yet non-negligible differences. You can find more information about the strengths and limitations of this model in Part 2 and Part 3 of the IF series. |
"the combinationof ADF plus exercise decreased LDL cholesterol (12% from baseline) while increasing HDL cholesterol (18% from baseline); a change that was not noted for any other intervention. The combination group also experienced an increase in LDL particle size, and a reduction in the proportion of small LDL and HDL particles." (Bhutani. 2013)Only later in the discussion of their results do they mention that those "CHD risk indicators" improved to the same extend in the ADF only group - with even more significant changes in the particle profile.
| Learn why breakfast is probably not the "most", but rather the least "important meal of the day" (read more). |
Keeping all that in mind I am still not convinced that a regular intermittent fasting routine (16-18h fasting window on every day; learn more about intermittent fasting here at the SuppVersity) and a combined aerobic + strength training regimen would not have yielded even superior results. The average physical culturist probably will be better of with this by now almost "classic" diet routine.
References:
- Bhutani S, Klempel MC, Kroeger CM, Trepanowski JF, Varady KA. Alternate day fasting and endurance exercise combine to reduce body weight and favorably alter plasma lipids in obese humans. Obesity (Silver Spring). 2013 Feb 14.
- Kumar S, Kaur G. Intermittent Fasting Dietary Restriction Regimen Negatively Influences Reproduction in Young Rats: A Study of Hypothalamo-Hypophysial-Gonadal Axis. PLoS ONE. 2013; 8(1): e52416.





I was just reading this...
ReplyDeletehttp://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0057458
I was amazed to the estrogen, effect in the liver...
actually it's not unlikely that this is also the pathway by which DHEA burns liver fat. On the other hand estrogen predisposes "healthy" but ugly fat depots elsewhere :-/
DeleteWhat are your thoughts on eating twice daily with 12-hour fasts in between? This would be breakfast at 8am and dinner at 8am with calories evenly distributed; 1000 calories each meal for a total of 2000 calores? This does result in significant fat loss (provided calories are in a deficit) and it appears to improve nutrient shuttling. Provided protein intake is sufficient, it appears the ratio of carbs and fats is not as important.
ReplyDeleteWhat are your thoughts on the positive or negative impacts of eating like this on your body and hormones?
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How many times a week did the combination group exercise and did it exercise on fasting days or feeding days ?
ReplyDeleteThis is originally how Dr.Varady intended for IF to be, with one day cutting the calories to 30%, knowing that subjects cannot compensate for 70% on the following day. As far as physical culturists go, I'm not so sure this way is worse, possibly even better, if you have an every other day split, since past research on IF has shown decreases in mTORC1, so that consuming the 30% in the evening on fasting days and exercising would lead to proper feeding for the next 24 hours to support anabolism.
ReplyDeleteWhat are your thoughts on eating twice daily with 12-hour fasts in between? This would be breakfast at 8am and dinner at 8am with calories evenly distributed; 1000 calories each meal for a total of 2000 calores? This does result in significant fat loss (provided calories are in a deficit) and it appears to improve nutrient shuttling. Provided protein intake is sufficient, it appears the ratio of carbs and fats is not as important.
ReplyDeleteWhat are your thoughts on the positive or negative impacts of eating like this on your body and hormones?
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Anonymous please don't double post. Adel receives an email every time a comment is made, but he is busy and can't respond to everything. That said, any eating schedule will promote fat loss when in a caloric deficit.
Delete^ true on both.
DeleteSorry for not responding before. I usually start with the next comment that pops up and when there are many it happens I cannot finish answering all of them and they get "lost" till the weekend, when I go through the heap of infomails and check whether I addressed everything.
When you are an athlete trying to gain weight, and thus not in a deficit it is yet imho not indicated to shovel down all your foods in 2 meals, only. It's not that this is a total no-go but there is even scientific evidence supporting the superiority of multiple meals in this scenario. Check out the position stand of the ISSN (free for everyone) on this topic (last paragraphs on athletic folks => http://www.jissn.com/content/8/1/4)
Hi Primalkid,
ReplyDeleteWhat about the effect on hormones levels?
As far as hormones are concerned, the overall size of the deficit will be more influential then when you eat. Go to low and your metabolism will slow, good-bye to libido, and your lethargic. Steady deficit won't do this as quickly (should incorporate carbohydrate re-feeds), but it will still happen during prolonged dieting. When you eat will not affect this, so pick a plan that gives you psychological relief.
DeleteThanks Primalkid, you have been very helpful.
ReplyDeleteyou may also want to check out today's post on natural body building => http://www.suppversity.blogspot.de/2013/03/scientific-bb-contest-prep-coverage-six.html
Deleteeven if you are not prepping for a show there is certain degree of hormonal shutdown, whenever you diet. As the example of the subject in the study shows, this does yet not mean that you won't look much better afterwards
forgot to mention - don't copy the guy in the study. I personally believe even he would have been better off with a 4-6 weeks on (=dieting) 2 weeks off scheme; the duration of the diet is also a critical factor people tend do overlook and the notion that "slow and steady" does not induce a yoyo effect is only true if you have a very low caloric deficit
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